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	<title>Comments on: Wikipedia:  The Barry Bonds of Search&#160;Results</title>
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		<title>By: sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wikipedia is indeed a mess.  The Ron Paul page alone could take eons to verify content.  I think Google really wants Wikipedia to be seen a a &quot;good&quot; content provider but inevitably they are just adding fueld to the &quot;whoever has the most links in the end wins&quot; fire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wikipedia is indeed a mess.  The Ron Paul page alone could take eons to verify content.  I think Google really wants Wikipedia to be seen a a &#8220;good&#8221; content provider but inevitably they are just adding fueld to the &#8220;whoever has the most links in the end wins&#8221; fire.</p>
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		<title>By: cuocthiseo</title>
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		<dc:creator>cuocthiseo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Old but cool article, nice to read it, 
Thanks:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old but cool article, nice to read it,<br />
Thanks:)</p>
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		<title>By: bodybuilding blog</title>
		<link>http://www.searchenginejournal.com/wikipedia-the-barry-bonds-of-search-results/5938/comment-page-1/#comment-731479</link>
		<dc:creator>bodybuilding blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 23:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the use of Barry bonds is a  linkbait measure to to draw attention,  I think it was in bad taste to slam Bonds for a topic on wikipedia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the use of Barry bonds is a  linkbait measure to to draw attention,  I think it was in bad taste to slam Bonds for a topic on wikipedia.</p>
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		<title>By: Carsten Cumbrowski</title>
		<link>http://www.searchenginejournal.com/wikipedia-the-barry-bonds-of-search-results/5938/comment-page-1/#comment-714033</link>
		<dc:creator>Carsten Cumbrowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I assume that Joseph is a big fan of baseball and Barry Bonds and not a big fan (to say the least) of Wikipedia. This would make his reaction to the article understandable. 

I am not a fan of baseball and never heard of Barry Bonds before and a supporter of Wikipedia (who knows too well its flaws and weaknesses, but also benefits at the same time). 

I got no bad opinion about Barry Bonds after reading this post. I understood that he is obviously famous and that something happened to put a dark spot on his long career. 

Maybe Eric should add a link to a good news article about the &quot;dark spot&quot; AND one about his record to the article. 

The phrases &quot;his record&quot; and &quot;with an asterisk by his name&quot; are the perfect spots for this references. 

In Wikipedia would I mark those two with a &quot;cite&quot; template (citation needed), but its not Wikipedia hehe.

This different reactions come to no surprise to me, because if you mix two subjective things to make a point, this will happen. I fell into that trap myself in the past :).

Regarding Wikipedia content and ranking. I agree and disagree with you Eric. There were discussions in the past that suggest how Google might should treat different entries in Wikipedia. I won&#039;t repeat all of this stuff, but want to mention that there are indicator in the code of Wikipedia articles that show the stage the article is in and its quality. For example the &quot;stub&quot; templates indicate that it is an article in its early stage and Google should not rank that one too high (if domain comes into play, add a penalty to those pages). On the other hand are there thousands of articles in status &quot;good article&quot; or &quot;featured article&quot;, which were scrutinized and reviewed multiple times before they got that status (which they can also lose anytime). Those articles actually deserve to rank #1 because of their quality. 

Good post though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I assume that Joseph is a big fan of baseball and Barry Bonds and not a big fan (to say the least) of Wikipedia. This would make his reaction to the article understandable. </p>
<p>I am not a fan of baseball and never heard of Barry Bonds before and a supporter of Wikipedia (who knows too well its flaws and weaknesses, but also benefits at the same time). </p>
<p>I got no bad opinion about Barry Bonds after reading this post. I understood that he is obviously famous and that something happened to put a dark spot on his long career. </p>
<p>Maybe Eric should add a link to a good news article about the &#8220;dark spot&#8221; AND one about his record to the article. </p>
<p>The phrases &#8220;his record&#8221; and &#8220;with an asterisk by his name&#8221; are the perfect spots for this references. </p>
<p>In Wikipedia would I mark those two with a &#8220;cite&#8221; template (citation needed), but its not Wikipedia hehe.</p>
<p>This different reactions come to no surprise to me, because if you mix two subjective things to make a point, this will happen. I fell into that trap myself in the past :).</p>
<p>Regarding Wikipedia content and ranking. I agree and disagree with you Eric. There were discussions in the past that suggest how Google might should treat different entries in Wikipedia. I won&#8217;t repeat all of this stuff, but want to mention that there are indicator in the code of Wikipedia articles that show the stage the article is in and its quality. For example the &#8220;stub&#8221; templates indicate that it is an article in its early stage and Google should not rank that one too high (if domain comes into play, add a penalty to those pages). On the other hand are there thousands of articles in status &#8220;good article&#8221; or &#8220;featured article&#8221;, which were scrutinized and reviewed multiple times before they got that status (which they can also lose anytime). Those articles actually deserve to rank #1 because of their quality. </p>
<p>Good post though.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh how great we would all be, but for the things that we do, think, and say... Your response to my opinion is noted for the record. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh how great we would all be, but for the things that we do, think, and say&#8230; Your response to my opinion is noted for the record. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Lander, Associate Editor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Lander, Associate Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 00:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry you feel that way Joseph... The point I was making is that despite Bond&#039;s accomplishments -- he will go down as having an indelible mark on his record.

Clean or not, we know (albeit, illegally) that he took steroids in the midst of his prime.

In a similar fashion, Wikipedia taints the search results despite their less than squeaky clean image.

Listen guys, the comparison in the above article was done to illustrate a point.  If that was done, in your opinion, in poor taste -- I&#039;m sorry for that.

I do however appreciate your reading the article as well as commenting.  I can guarantee you -- Joseph, Increase PR and Billy -- that your comments are not only read and understood, but they&#039;ll also be factors in how I approach similar articles in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry you feel that way Joseph&#8230; The point I was making is that despite Bond&#8217;s accomplishments &#8212; he will go down as having an indelible mark on his record.</p>
<p>Clean or not, we know (albeit, illegally) that he took steroids in the midst of his prime.</p>
<p>In a similar fashion, Wikipedia taints the search results despite their less than squeaky clean image.</p>
<p>Listen guys, the comparison in the above article was done to illustrate a point.  If that was done, in your opinion, in poor taste &#8212; I&#8217;m sorry for that.</p>
<p>I do however appreciate your reading the article as well as commenting.  I can guarantee you &#8212; Joseph, Increase PR and Billy &#8212; that your comments are not only read and understood, but they&#8217;ll also be factors in how I approach similar articles in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 23:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your analogy between Bonds and Wikipedia is slanderous at best. Are you an authority on what people think of Barry Bonds? You are only an opinionator of BS when you attempt to feed hate to the public in a subliminally sneaky way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your analogy between Bonds and Wikipedia is slanderous at best. Are you an authority on what people think of Barry Bonds? You are only an opinionator of BS when you attempt to feed hate to the public in a subliminally sneaky way.</p>
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		<title>By: Increase PR</title>
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		<dc:creator>Increase PR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trying to fuel a controversy? That&#039;s much ado about nothing to my viewpoint. I wasted my time with this article. Should focus on more interesting topics...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trying to fuel a controversy? That&#8217;s much ado about nothing to my viewpoint. I wasted my time with this article. Should focus on more interesting topics&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie Anzman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie Anzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 04:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We just did a similar post this week.  We literally wrote 9 original (and factfilled) articles for Wikipedia in the past two years.  All have been somewhat destroyed by &#039;those with an agenda&#039; and I&#039;m not referring to the links!
Thanks
Charlie Anzman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We just did a similar post this week.  We literally wrote 9 original (and factfilled) articles for Wikipedia in the past two years.  All have been somewhat destroyed by &#8216;those with an agenda&#8217; and I&#8217;m not referring to the links!<br />
Thanks<br />
Charlie Anzman</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 06:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>100% agreed. I suggest google to open up a box at the right, where they put sponsored ads for wikipedia. What is the point of displaying wikipedia for all top search queries? There are sites that offer far more better information than wikipedia, so why promote a service with so many errors?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>100% agreed. I suggest google to open up a box at the right, where they put sponsored ads for wikipedia. What is the point of displaying wikipedia for all top search queries? There are sites that offer far more better information than wikipedia, so why promote a service with so many errors?</p>
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