Comments on: Wikiasari : The Answer for Search? http://www.searchenginejournal.com/wikiasari-the-answer-for-search/4173/ Tue, 14 Feb 2012 09:28:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Robert Handley http://www.searchenginejournal.com/wikiasari-the-answer-for-search/4173/comment-page-1/#comment-1116831 Robert Handley Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:48:56 +0000 http://www.searchenginejournal.com/?p=4173#comment-1116831 True...but I think that "popularity" plays a big part and is interrelated into user behavior...I also think that because a select few search engines dominate the SE market, many will be unaware that the "goods" are of high quality (or poor quality). You have to consider that although potential buyers/customers might have a good understanding of what they're looking for...all the other people using the same search engines often don't...they're searches are still counted into the mix...these millions of users DO come back, regardless of whether the info is of the "best" quality. There are a lot of people who believe everything/too much of what they read on the internet. In fact, I would speculate that the majority of users have too much faith in the info that comes up in searches.... I could be way off... True…but I think that “popularity” plays a big part and is interrelated into user behavior…I also think that because a select few search engines dominate the SE market, many will be unaware that the “goods” are of high quality (or poor quality). You have to consider that although potential buyers/customers might have a good understanding of what they’re looking for…all the other people using the same search engines often don’t…they’re searches are still counted into the mix…these millions of users DO come back, regardless of whether the info is of the “best” quality. There are a lot of people who believe everything/too much of what they read on the internet. In fact, I would speculate that the majority of users have too much faith in the info that comes up in searches….

I could be way off…

]]> By: Esopo http://www.searchenginejournal.com/wikiasari-the-answer-for-search/4173/comment-page-1/#comment-359264 Esopo Mon, 08 Jan 2007 15:52:00 +0000 http://www.searchenginejournal.com/?p=4173#comment-359264 Robert J. Handley, Your argument holds less water than a beer cap. The assumption that people become loyal to services on the sole basis of apparent popularity is not very convincing. Curiosity generates initial hits, but if the goods are not worth it visitors don't come back. Robert J. Handley,
Your argument holds less water than a beer cap. The assumption that people become loyal to services on the sole basis of apparent popularity is not very convincing.
Curiosity generates initial hits, but if the goods are not worth it visitors don’t come back.

]]> By: Esopo http://www.searchenginejournal.com/wikiasari-the-answer-for-search/4173/comment-page-1/#comment-357614 Esopo Fri, 05 Jan 2007 03:59:28 +0000 http://www.searchenginejournal.com/?p=4173#comment-357614 Keith, We need search engines that can produce results for: "Were there any more wars with the French after 1850?" Probably any adult in the US can answer that question in a heart beat, but a search engine fails miserably. We need search engines that can understand humans. So far the best way we can search for that query is something like: “US history war France” The results of that query on any search engine will hardly yield a direct response to the question in the user’s mind. We can easily expect half the high-school kids looking for that information to fail in their search. The SEs are not to blame though. It is not their fault, they are just not advanced enough but we are moving forward. That’s what we’ll be seeing in the future, smarter SEs that can understand humans better and thus produce better results. And about the bass thing, We are already there. Search engines can tell if you mean bass the fish or bass the musical instrument based on the profile they have on you. I’m not sure to what extent they will be comfortable implementing it in their search results, but they are already targeting results to your locale info. Keith,

We need search engines that can produce results for:
“Were there any more wars with the French after 1850?”
Probably any adult in the US can answer that question in a heart beat, but a search engine fails miserably. We need search engines that can understand humans. So far the best way we can search for that query is something like:
“US history war France”

The results of that query on any search engine will hardly yield a direct response to the question in the user’s mind. We can easily expect half the high-school kids looking for that information to fail in their search.

The SEs are not to blame though. It is not their fault, they are just not advanced enough but we are moving forward. That’s what we’ll be seeing in the future, smarter SEs that can understand humans better and thus produce better results.

And about the bass thing,
We are already there. Search engines can tell if you mean bass the fish or bass the musical instrument based on the profile they have on you. I’m not sure to what extent they will be comfortable implementing it in their search results, but they are already targeting results to your locale info.

]]> By: Keith Eysmun http://www.searchenginejournal.com/wikiasari-the-answer-for-search/4173/comment-page-1/#comment-352525 Keith Eysmun Fri, 29 Dec 2006 20:44:36 +0000 http://www.searchenginejournal.com/?p=4173#comment-352525 Everyone says that, Sal, but could you give some examples? And I don't me stupid examples like, "we need search engines to be able to guess when we mean bass the fish vs. bass the beer vs. bass the electric instrument vs. bass the acoustic instrument vs. bass the voice." Those examples are dumb because a consumer wanting information on bass the fish doesn't just enter "bass," or if he does he immediately re-searches for "bass fishing." Everyone says that, Sal, but could you give some examples? And I don’t me stupid examples like, “we need search engines to be able to guess when we mean bass the fish vs. bass the beer vs. bass the electric instrument vs. bass the acoustic instrument vs. bass the voice.” Those examples are dumb because a consumer wanting information on bass the fish doesn’t just enter “bass,” or if he does he immediately re-searches for “bass fishing.”

]]> By: Sal S. http://www.searchenginejournal.com/wikiasari-the-answer-for-search/4173/comment-page-1/#comment-351696 Sal S. Thu, 28 Dec 2006 17:58:25 +0000 http://www.searchenginejournal.com/?p=4173#comment-351696 "Search is not broken" It's not broken however, in the evolution cycle, it hardly made it's first baby steps. I'm amazed search professionals look at search today and thing this is as far as it goes. We have so much to do, so much to move forward. “Search is not broken”
It’s not broken however, in the evolution cycle, it hardly made it’s first baby steps.
I’m amazed search professionals look at search today and thing this is as far as it goes. We have so much to do, so much to move forward.

]]> By: Keith Eysmun http://www.searchenginejournal.com/wikiasari-the-answer-for-search/4173/comment-page-1/#comment-351614 Keith Eysmun Thu, 28 Dec 2006 16:37:28 +0000 http://www.searchenginejournal.com/?p=4173#comment-351614 I think Wikiasari is going to fail in a HUGE way. Search is not broken. Human editors are not going to be better than algorithms (and even if they are Google can easily get more of them than can Jimmy Wales). I write more about this at http://keysmun.blogspot.com/2006/12/why-wikiasari-will-fail.html I think Wikiasari is going to fail in a HUGE way. Search is not broken. Human editors are not going to be better than algorithms (and even if they are Google can easily get more of them than can Jimmy Wales). I write more about this at http://keysmun.blogspot.com/2006/12/why-wikiasari-will-fail.html

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