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	<title>Comments on: Who Invented the Term &#8220;Search Engine Optimization&#8221;?  Part&#160;Deux</title>
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		<title>By: Sameer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sameer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this really nice article.</description>
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		<title>By: Shelley Sanders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shelley Sanders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny you can do something for a living and never think about where it came from. Thought provoking article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny you can do something for a living and never think about where it came from. Thought provoking article.</p>
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		<title>By: James Stratford @JRStratford (Twitter)</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Stratford @JRStratford (Twitter)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 23:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice article!  That evolution started early on the web, but only among non visible, non famous techies.  But there have always been a lot of words for it.  It brought back old memories of a friend of mine and I discussing it long ago.  

It became mainstream much later in the progression since it became more of an art and science mix than it used to be.  The Secret Warrior Forums used it back in about 1994, but I doubt they have archives since it&#039;s so many years later and now it&#039;s &quot;The Warriors&quot;  Alan Says may know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article!  That evolution started early on the web, but only among non visible, non famous techies.  But there have always been a lot of words for it.  It brought back old memories of a friend of mine and I discussing it long ago.  </p>
<p>It became mainstream much later in the progression since it became more of an art and science mix than it used to be.  The Secret Warrior Forums used it back in about 1994, but I doubt they have archives since it&#8217;s so many years later and now it&#8217;s &#8220;The Warriors&#8221;  Alan Says may know.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Govindan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Govindan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 15:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice Article. I got the reference from Digg and really found it interesting to know the History of term &quot;Search Engine Optimization&quot;. I start knowing this term in 1999. But I am really not sure who tossed this term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice Article. I got the reference from Digg and really found it interesting to know the History of term &#8220;Search Engine Optimization&#8221;. I start knowing this term in 1999. But I am really not sure who tossed this term.</p>
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		<title>By: WillStewart</title>
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		<dc:creator>WillStewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how strong is becoming this strategy! besides some great designs in web banner advertising surely you&#039;ll get the top of the market</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how strong is becoming this strategy! besides some great designs in web banner advertising surely you&#8217;ll get the top of the market</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 23:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t understand where the term came from, anyway was pretty interesting the info about seo and sem.

Craig Miller
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ilikesem.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;internet marketing specialist&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t understand where the term came from, anyway was pretty interesting the info about seo and sem.</p>
<p>Craig Miller<br />
<a href="http://www.ilikesem.com/" rel="nofollow">internet marketing specialist</a></p>
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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 01:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spend so much of my time explaining what search engine optimization is and what it means....now I have a list of people I can potentially thank for that!

ha thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spend so much of my time explaining what search engine optimization is and what it means&#8230;.now I have a list of people I can potentially thank for that!</p>
<p>ha thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Carsten Cumbrowski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carsten Cumbrowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comments Andrew. I guess we will never know for sure who &quot;coined&quot; the name SEO. Well, it was interesting to look back though hehe.

It&#039;s funny that I get into this &quot;research&quot; because of a little &quot;tag&quot; saying &quot;citation needed&quot;, which was added to the Wikipedia article for Bruce Clay where it used to claim that he coined the term. Well, that claim was removed from the article. That is how it should work in Wikipedia... it often does, but unfortunately does not just as much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments Andrew. I guess we will never know for sure who &#8220;coined&#8221; the name SEO. Well, it was interesting to look back though hehe.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny that I get into this &#8220;research&#8221; because of a little &#8220;tag&#8221; saying &#8220;citation needed&#8221;, which was added to the Wikipedia article for Bruce Clay where it used to claim that he coined the term. Well, that claim was removed from the article. That is how it should work in Wikipedia&#8230; it often does, but unfortunately does not just as much.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Goodman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Goodman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And yes, I realize I&#039;m late to this party. Just catching up on some old correspondence.

It&#039;s a bit sad to see that so far, the earliest occurrence found (by Danny) is a spam message in Dec. 1997, to Usenet so characteristic of so many of the subsequent &quot;SEO companies&quot; (not all of course). In the flaming promo, the spammer actually spells one of the search engines&#039; names (Magellan) incorrectly. :(

Lots of other forum discussions on this, including High Rankings, who are particularly hot on the trail. I should have known MMG&#039;ers were probably behind some of this, but it took awhile before the term &quot;stuck&quot;. I seem to recall it naturally spread from firm to firm offering remarkably similar services, and it stuck because it sounded technical to clients, IMHO.
http://www.highrankings.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=26193&amp;st=45</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yes, I realize I&#8217;m late to this party. Just catching up on some old correspondence.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a bit sad to see that so far, the earliest occurrence found (by Danny) is a spam message in Dec. 1997, to Usenet so characteristic of so many of the subsequent &#8220;SEO companies&#8221; (not all of course). In the flaming promo, the spammer actually spells one of the search engines&#8217; names (Magellan) incorrectly. :(</p>
<p>Lots of other forum discussions on this, including High Rankings, who are particularly hot on the trail. I should have known MMG&#8217;ers were probably behind some of this, but it took awhile before the term &#8220;stuck&#8221;. I seem to recall it naturally spread from firm to firm offering remarkably similar services, and it stuck because it sounded technical to clients, IMHO.<br />
<a href="http://www.highrankings.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=26193&#038;st=45" rel="nofollow">http://www.highrankings.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=26193&#038;st=45</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Goodman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Goodman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul Bruemmer&#039;s account sounds about right. Search Engine Positioning had been the first accepted term for the practice, reinforced by Marckini&#039;s book of that title.

Keep in mind, also, the fact that Webposition was already selling its product in 1998, and the term &quot;positioning&quot; got a huge boost from that.

It would have taken some convincing by someone influential to argue that *positioning* was misleading. My memory tells me Danny might have been that influencer -- not to say he was the first to use the term SE optimization, but that he endorsed its use.

Then again, I almost suspect some journalist came up with the term, in a hastily written article in some major publication, and others began adopting it. Kind of like a genetic mutation where the person stuck in a term they felt was better than &quot;positioning,&quot; and it fit well with what the strategic actors in the space thought would sound better to clients, so the thing stuck.

Or, some now defunct SEO firm decided to sell using this term. Or it was a secondary term sometimes used by the likes of i-prospect, and then it spread to many copycat sales pitches. Or, Bruce Clay really was the first - and again, it spread like wildfire (accelerated by Danny&#039;s usage of the term?).

It doesn&#039;t seem that the term was used in 1996 or before that - if you search for &quot;optimizing for Altavista&quot; or &quot;Optimizing for Webcrawler&quot; or &quot;Optimizing for Infoseek&quot; you don&#039;t get any results from their heydays.

Unfortunately the Wayback Machine is down right now so I&#039;m thwarted on that front.

It&#039;s amazing how entrenched the acronym &quot;SEO&quot; became. I get called one sometimes, and I hate it. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Bruemmer&#8217;s account sounds about right. Search Engine Positioning had been the first accepted term for the practice, reinforced by Marckini&#8217;s book of that title.</p>
<p>Keep in mind, also, the fact that Webposition was already selling its product in 1998, and the term &#8220;positioning&#8221; got a huge boost from that.</p>
<p>It would have taken some convincing by someone influential to argue that *positioning* was misleading. My memory tells me Danny might have been that influencer &#8212; not to say he was the first to use the term SE optimization, but that he endorsed its use.</p>
<p>Then again, I almost suspect some journalist came up with the term, in a hastily written article in some major publication, and others began adopting it. Kind of like a genetic mutation where the person stuck in a term they felt was better than &#8220;positioning,&#8221; and it fit well with what the strategic actors in the space thought would sound better to clients, so the thing stuck.</p>
<p>Or, some now defunct SEO firm decided to sell using this term. Or it was a secondary term sometimes used by the likes of i-prospect, and then it spread to many copycat sales pitches. Or, Bruce Clay really was the first &#8211; and again, it spread like wildfire (accelerated by Danny&#8217;s usage of the term?).</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t seem that the term was used in 1996 or before that &#8211; if you search for &#8220;optimizing for Altavista&#8221; or &#8220;Optimizing for Webcrawler&#8221; or &#8220;Optimizing for Infoseek&#8221; you don&#8217;t get any results from their heydays.</p>
<p>Unfortunately the Wayback Machine is down right now so I&#8217;m thwarted on that front.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s amazing how entrenched the acronym &#8220;SEO&#8221; became. I get called one sometimes, and I hate it. :)</p>
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