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		<title>By: Kate Morris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 23:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, that is a fantastic question Julie!

Okay, just for everyone else, the post from Google is here: http://adwords.google.com/support/aw/bin/answer.py?hl=en&amp;answer=8759

That of course says no. Why? Because they want people to understand that having multiple accounts to cheat the system and have more than one ad per keyword is NOT allowed. That is why they say that.

But read the part that states &quot;unless explicitly advised otherwise by Google.&quot; I worked for a company once that had 7 accounts, I think. Maybe eight. We had our own MCC and lots of support from Google. Even though each was from the same company, Google saw that each was it&#039;s own business. 

Now, we did have an MCC, and I was certified, but no, that is not required. You can have an MCC without certification, though it&#039;s not recommended of course to have one without a certified professional. ;) 

No seriously, if you are running multiple accounts, you are most likely spending lots of money, and should do the training anyway. It&#039;s a good investment of time, and good for whoever is running it.

I hope that answers your question. Be good about opening new accounts, attach them all through an MCC, and let Google know. Once they know that you are needing so many accounts to spend SO much money with them they will be more than happy to help you out. ;)

Kate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that is a fantastic question Julie!</p>
<p>Okay, just for everyone else, the post from Google is here: <a href="http://adwords.google.com/support/aw/bin/answer.py?hl=en&#038;answer=8759" rel="nofollow">http://adwords.google.com/support/aw/bin/answer.py?hl=en&#038;answer=8759</a></p>
<p>That of course says no. Why? Because they want people to understand that having multiple accounts to cheat the system and have more than one ad per keyword is NOT allowed. That is why they say that.</p>
<p>But read the part that states &#8220;unless explicitly advised otherwise by Google.&#8221; I worked for a company once that had 7 accounts, I think. Maybe eight. We had our own MCC and lots of support from Google. Even though each was from the same company, Google saw that each was it&#8217;s own business. </p>
<p>Now, we did have an MCC, and I was certified, but no, that is not required. You can have an MCC without certification, though it&#8217;s not recommended of course to have one without a certified professional. ;) </p>
<p>No seriously, if you are running multiple accounts, you are most likely spending lots of money, and should do the training anyway. It&#8217;s a good investment of time, and good for whoever is running it.</p>
<p>I hope that answers your question. Be good about opening new accounts, attach them all through an MCC, and let Google know. Once they know that you are needing so many accounts to spend SO much money with them they will be more than happy to help you out. ;)</p>
<p>Kate</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kate, 

I just found your blog and I am loving browsing through old issues about organization, tools and ppc. 

I only thought to ask you this (below) after I saw your disclaimer about tools you reviewed on site here. Very good idea, by the way!

Above you mentioned &quot;Please remember to have an account for each business/website. Never put different businesses in one account...&quot;

It was my understanding that it was against Google&#039;s terms of service agreement to have more than one account, unless you were an SEO specialist and handled many (different) businesses. Even then you were only allowed to have more than one account if you passed their SEO course (which you have to pay for). 

My question for you Kate is  
Did I misunderstand what I read at Google&#039;s TOS (as far as my understanding was explained to you above)? 

Or has it changed? 

Or is it one of those things, that most web business owners know about, but do it anyway?
 
What do you think?  

Signed by &quot;A New Fan&quot;,

Julie 
Truck Routes GPS
GreatEagleTech,com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kate, </p>
<p>I just found your blog and I am loving browsing through old issues about organization, tools and ppc. </p>
<p>I only thought to ask you this (below) after I saw your disclaimer about tools you reviewed on site here. Very good idea, by the way!</p>
<p>Above you mentioned &#8220;Please remember to have an account for each business/website. Never put different businesses in one account&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>It was my understanding that it was against Google&#8217;s terms of service agreement to have more than one account, unless you were an SEO specialist and handled many (different) businesses. Even then you were only allowed to have more than one account if you passed their SEO course (which you have to pay for). </p>
<p>My question for you Kate is<br />
Did I misunderstand what I read at Google&#8217;s TOS (as far as my understanding was explained to you above)? </p>
<p>Or has it changed? </p>
<p>Or is it one of those things, that most web business owners know about, but do it anyway?</p>
<p>What do you think?  </p>
<p>Signed by &#8220;A New Fan&#8221;,</p>
<p>Julie<br />
Truck Routes GPS<br />
GreatEagleTech,com</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Morris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 18:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@randall actually, no there is no one best way. I wish there was some template to follow, but it really does depend on each company. I&#039;ve worked with so many at this point that I have seen my best practices thrown right out the window when I experience a new company structure. These are just general tips for execution and the overarching tip to spend more time organizing and focusing on your end user searches. 

I will see if I can come up with a more directed &quot;case study&quot; approach later on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@randall actually, no there is no one best way. I wish there was some template to follow, but it really does depend on each company. I&#8217;ve worked with so many at this point that I have seen my best practices thrown right out the window when I experience a new company structure. These are just general tips for execution and the overarching tip to spend more time organizing and focusing on your end user searches. </p>
<p>I will see if I can come up with a more directed &#8220;case study&#8221; approach later on.</p>
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		<title>By: Randall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 15:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would love to see a more fleshed out template like the one in the response to Matt.  I was hoping that was what this article was going to do.  I am sure there is a &#039;best practices&#039; way to set it up, and would appreciate a full &#039;sample company&#039; template to be able to learn from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love to see a more fleshed out template like the one in the response to Matt.  I was hoping that was what this article was going to do.  I am sure there is a &#8216;best practices&#8217; way to set it up, and would appreciate a full &#8216;sample company&#8217; template to be able to learn from.</p>
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		<title>By: aag</title>
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		<dc:creator>aag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 11:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for giving a knowledge for PPC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for giving a knowledge for PPC</p>
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		<title>By: Brent Haeseker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brent Haeseker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, so organization is probably not the #1 tip for optimum  PPC performance, but I think the article is correct in that it is the root from which the bidding, testing, keyword optimizing, etc. grows from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, so organization is probably not the #1 tip for optimum  PPC performance, but I think the article is correct in that it is the root from which the bidding, testing, keyword optimizing, etc. grows from.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Morris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@sue it&#039;s the road to perfecting ROI and CPA that I am talking about here. You are correct and I think this article shows you how you might go about getting there.

@Rob exactly!! Another great point about good organization. Your clients and company (if inhouse) will thank you later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@sue it&#8217;s the road to perfecting ROI and CPA that I am talking about here. You are correct and I think this article shows you how you might go about getting there.</p>
<p>@Rob exactly!! Another great point about good organization. Your clients and company (if inhouse) will thank you later.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Lewicki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Lewicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice article Kate thanks!

I like to organize an account thinking if someone was to ever take over the account, they should know exactly what&#039;s going on just by viewing it. Back in my college days, my programming professors always said that you should code and comment in a way that if someone was to ever take over, they should know exactly what&#039;s going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article Kate thanks!</p>
<p>I like to organize an account thinking if someone was to ever take over the account, they should know exactly what&#8217;s going on just by viewing it. Back in my college days, my programming professors always said that you should code and comment in a way that if someone was to ever take over, they should know exactly what&#8217;s going on.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 02:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If your goal truly is to get the best ROI you should consider CPA or cost per action.  Clients who use CPA affiliate marketing models pay ONLY for the clients they actually acquire. Giving true ROI on every cent spent. Your expense is based on REAL performance, getting sales! My experience at hydranetwork has shown me that CPA reduces wasted ad dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If your goal truly is to get the best ROI you should consider CPA or cost per action.  Clients who use CPA affiliate marketing models pay ONLY for the clients they actually acquire. Giving true ROI on every cent spent. Your expense is based on REAL performance, getting sales! My experience at hydranetwork has shown me that CPA reduces wasted ad dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Morris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Matt! 

In my experience a well organized campaign can be the difference in a good campaign versus a great campaign in terms of performance and management. So both really. Let me explain. 

Bidding is a big thing in campaign management, I will agree there, but even the best placed keywords on a SERPs page will not do well if the ad and landing page are not targeted to the right people. A well organized campaign with targeted ads, landing pages, and keywords will improve your quality score and potentially bring costs down, further helping your ROI on the campaign. 

Think about a campaign with 5 ad groups in very general terms. 50 keywords in each one. There are keywords that have different intentions depending on the words added, word order, and the like. If those same keywords were groups by intention and product so that specific ads and landing pages could be applied would increase the chance that the end user will find what they are looking for and purchase.

I cannot give specific examples due to the nature of our business and client confidentiality and all of that. But here&#039;s an idea of what I mean. This is just an idea, of course there would be more detail, but you get the idea.

Company: Diamonds Galore
Locations in California and Nevada, but can sell Nationally online

Account Setup A - Original Setup
Campaign: Necklaces
     Ad Group: Emeralds
     Ad Group: Diamonds
Campaign: Bracelets
     Ad Group: Emeralds
     Ad Group: Diamonds

Account Setup B - Optimal
Campaign: Texas
     Ad Group: Engagement
     Ad Group: Wedding
     Ad Group: Necklaces
Campaign: Florida
Campaign: National (-Texas -Florida)

Here the second setup would allow the company to:
- target those people who can visit brick and mortar stores with geo-targeting, announce specials, and target the ads to pages with those specials and maps to the stores closest to them.
- target those who are in the market for specific jewelry items like wedding and engagement rings.

I hope you get an idea of what I mean here. With a well organized campaign, the management is easier, but more than that, costs drop (quality score) and return increases because the end user is targeted better. 

Kate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Matt! </p>
<p>In my experience a well organized campaign can be the difference in a good campaign versus a great campaign in terms of performance and management. So both really. Let me explain. </p>
<p>Bidding is a big thing in campaign management, I will agree there, but even the best placed keywords on a SERPs page will not do well if the ad and landing page are not targeted to the right people. A well organized campaign with targeted ads, landing pages, and keywords will improve your quality score and potentially bring costs down, further helping your ROI on the campaign. </p>
<p>Think about a campaign with 5 ad groups in very general terms. 50 keywords in each one. There are keywords that have different intentions depending on the words added, word order, and the like. If those same keywords were groups by intention and product so that specific ads and landing pages could be applied would increase the chance that the end user will find what they are looking for and purchase.</p>
<p>I cannot give specific examples due to the nature of our business and client confidentiality and all of that. But here&#8217;s an idea of what I mean. This is just an idea, of course there would be more detail, but you get the idea.</p>
<p>Company: Diamonds Galore<br />
Locations in California and Nevada, but can sell Nationally online</p>
<p>Account Setup A &#8211; Original Setup<br />
Campaign: Necklaces<br />
     Ad Group: Emeralds<br />
     Ad Group: Diamonds<br />
Campaign: Bracelets<br />
     Ad Group: Emeralds<br />
     Ad Group: Diamonds</p>
<p>Account Setup B &#8211; Optimal<br />
Campaign: Texas<br />
     Ad Group: Engagement<br />
     Ad Group: Wedding<br />
     Ad Group: Necklaces<br />
Campaign: Florida<br />
Campaign: National (-Texas -Florida)</p>
<p>Here the second setup would allow the company to:<br />
- target those people who can visit brick and mortar stores with geo-targeting, announce specials, and target the ads to pages with those specials and maps to the stores closest to them.<br />
- target those who are in the market for specific jewelry items like wedding and engagement rings.</p>
<p>I hope you get an idea of what I mean here. With a well organized campaign, the management is easier, but more than that, costs drop (quality score) and return increases because the end user is targeted better. </p>
<p>Kate</p>
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