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	<title>Comments on: Microsoft&#8217;s Bing Falsifies Site Data to Increase Click Through&#160;Rates</title>
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		<title>By: Zach Coffman</title>
		<link>http://www.searchenginejournal.com/microsofts-bing-falsifies-site-data-to-increase-click-through-rates/10798/comment-page-2/#comment-1108910</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach Coffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 23:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would anyone do a search for &quot;joehall&quot; anyway? Who the heck is Joe hall??? Also, I thing bing is worried about the people who use the search engine. Not the webmasters. You really think they would intentionally prevent CUSTOMERS from getting valid search results? That&#039;s nonsense. It&#039;s about customers! Even if they were driving customers to sites that weren&#039;t relevant; why would you care? It wouldn&#039;t hurt anyone but ms...  Just another ms hater in denial about ms success... Btw, they have every right to tweak their own algo... If people don&#039;t like the output it&#039;s giving, they will just go somewhere else. I have found bing results to be as good, and sometimes better than google. I didn&#039;t know it was considered playing &quot;dirty&quot; to use your own se how you see fit and manipulate data the same way. If it is, then every se ever is evil. You have to manipulate data or it will be digital trash. 

I can&#039;t believe your audacity. It&#039;s mind boggling. Boohoo if u don&#039;t like their strategy. Doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s wrong.

Go see a theropist pls.

How do u like that &quot;data manipulation&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would anyone do a search for &#8220;joehall&#8221; anyway? Who the heck is Joe hall??? Also, I thing bing is worried about the people who use the search engine. Not the webmasters. You really think they would intentionally prevent CUSTOMERS from getting valid search results? That&#8217;s nonsense. It&#8217;s about customers! Even if they were driving customers to sites that weren&#8217;t relevant; why would you care? It wouldn&#8217;t hurt anyone but ms&#8230;  Just another ms hater in denial about ms success&#8230; Btw, they have every right to tweak their own algo&#8230; If people don&#8217;t like the output it&#8217;s giving, they will just go somewhere else. I have found bing results to be as good, and sometimes better than google. I didn&#8217;t know it was considered playing &#8220;dirty&#8221; to use your own se how you see fit and manipulate data the same way. If it is, then every se ever is evil. You have to manipulate data or it will be digital trash. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe your audacity. It&#8217;s mind boggling. Boohoo if u don&#8217;t like their strategy. Doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s wrong.</p>
<p>Go see a theropist pls.</p>
<p>How do u like that &#8220;data manipulation&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Zach Coffman</title>
		<link>http://www.searchenginejournal.com/microsofts-bing-falsifies-site-data-to-increase-click-through-rates/10798/comment-page-2/#comment-1108892</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach Coffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Joe the so called attacks on your charactor were completely warranted. When the fact that you say they are baseless is insultingOne analyst reckons that Google’s global dominance will nearly impossible for Microsoft’s Bing to dent. and shows what kind of person you are. A snob of a troll, and a shameless liar who is afraid (or not man enough) to admit when they make a mistake... Your lack of respect or willingness to value other&#039;s opinions (even when backed by common sense) reeks of little big man syndrome... Lemme guess: you are about 5 feet tall and have no authority in the real world so u try to compensate for it in the fake world? A hobbit and a troll... Michael is an expert on people like u. 

The only thing baseless in this whole discussion, is the original article, and most of the follow ups by the so called journalist. Unbelievable!

PS
i&#039;m no ms fan! And where on earth is your neck man?!?! Your head just sits directly on your shoulders?!?! LMAO. Must be hard to get layed lookin like that huh? U probably got a real beast of a woman huh?! Lololol. Maybe u were just mad about those things, and took it out on the Internet huh?!!!?! Lolololollmaorofl !!! Huh?!?!?!? Huh?!?!?!?!?! Maybe next time you&#039;ll just shut your big face... Huh?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Way to waste people&#039;s time man... Thanks a lot you POS on pMS huh?!?!?!?!? 8itch!?!?! If this was the real world you wouldn&#039;t say shlt cause I&#039;d kick your 4SS huh?!?!?!?!?!!!! Loser!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Joe the so called attacks on your charactor were completely warranted. When the fact that you say they are baseless is insultingOne analyst reckons that Google’s global dominance will nearly impossible for Microsoft’s Bing to dent. and shows what kind of person you are. A snob of a troll, and a shameless liar who is afraid (or not man enough) to admit when they make a mistake&#8230; Your lack of respect or willingness to value other&#8217;s opinions (even when backed by common sense) reeks of little big man syndrome&#8230; Lemme guess: you are about 5 feet tall and have no authority in the real world so u try to compensate for it in the fake world? A hobbit and a troll&#8230; Michael is an expert on people like u. </p>
<p>The only thing baseless in this whole discussion, is the original article, and most of the follow ups by the so called journalist. Unbelievable!</p>
<p>PS<br />
i&#8217;m no ms fan! And where on earth is your neck man?!?! Your head just sits directly on your shoulders?!?! LMAO. Must be hard to get layed lookin like that huh? U probably got a real beast of a woman huh?! Lololol. Maybe u were just mad about those things, and took it out on the Internet huh?!!!?! Lolololollmaorofl !!! Huh?!?!?!? Huh?!?!?!?!?! Maybe next time you&#8217;ll just shut your big face&#8230; Huh?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!<br />
Way to waste people&#8217;s time man&#8230; Thanks a lot you POS on pMS huh?!?!?!?!? 8itch!?!?! If this was the real world you wouldn&#8217;t say shlt cause I&#8217;d kick your 4SS huh?!?!?!?!?!!!! Loser!</p>
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		<title>By: Curtis Reddehase</title>
		<link>http://www.searchenginejournal.com/microsofts-bing-falsifies-site-data-to-increase-click-through-rates/10798/comment-page-2/#comment-1105153</link>
		<dc:creator>Curtis Reddehase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My bounce rate for Google was the highest and yahoo the lowest with Bing in the middle but closer to the Yahoo. So I am pleased with my bounce rate with Bing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My bounce rate for Google was the highest and yahoo the lowest with Bing in the middle but closer to the Yahoo. So I am pleased with my bounce rate with Bing</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Van Horne</title>
		<link>http://www.searchenginejournal.com/microsofts-bing-falsifies-site-data-to-increase-click-through-rates/10798/comment-page-2/#comment-1103440</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Van Horne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Google doesn&#039;t?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;q=seopros.org&amp;aq=0&amp;oq=seopros&amp;aqi=g2

Note the Title- I couldn&#039;t write a title that bad if I&#039;d smoked two or three left handed cigarettes!

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;q=site%3Awww.seopros.org%2B%22SEOpros.org%22&amp;btnG=Search&amp;aq=f&amp;oq=&amp;aqi=
Indicates there is not a usage anywhere on the site like that. Title or otherwise!!!!!

I think there is on ODP you know... just because they can!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Google doesn&#8217;t?<br />
<a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&#038;q=seopros.org&#038;aq=0&#038;oq=seopros&#038;aqi=g2" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&#038;q=seopros.org&#038;aq=0&#038;oq=seopros&#038;aqi=g2</a></p>
<p>Note the Title- I couldn&#8217;t write a title that bad if I&#8217;d smoked two or three left handed cigarettes!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&#038;q=site%3Awww.seopros.org%2B%22SEOpros.org%22&#038;btnG=Search&#038;aq=f&#038;oq=&#038;aqi" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&#038;q=site%3Awww.seopros.org%2B%22SEOpros.org%22&#038;btnG=Search&#038;aq=f&#038;oq=&#038;aqi</a>=<br />
Indicates there is not a usage anywhere on the site like that. Title or otherwise!!!!!</p>
<p>I think there is on ODP you know&#8230; just because they can!</p>
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		<title>By: Dvdrip mp4</title>
		<link>http://www.searchenginejournal.com/microsofts-bing-falsifies-site-data-to-increase-click-through-rates/10798/comment-page-2/#comment-1103381</link>
		<dc:creator>Dvdrip mp4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bence Bing Biraz kendini geliştirmesi lazm.Biraz Yahoo ya Benziyor</description>
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		<title>By: Elli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 00:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it my impression, or is it that google and yahoo are showing the best title and description they can produce to satisfy your information query, and bing is showing the best title and description to MAKE YOU THINK that your information query is satisfied?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it my impression, or is it that google and yahoo are showing the best title and description they can produce to satisfy your information query, and bing is showing the best title and description to MAKE YOU THINK that your information query is satisfied?</p>
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		<title>By: Elli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 00:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article! I tried a few queries, and the results are no where near the quality of google or yahoo. I think they want to run before they can walk.
 
Agree with your comments about manipulating titles for click through. 

@Sebastien : I think you missed the point. Google and yahoo do not always use meta tags and titles on search results. This is not the point of this article and nothing in it implies that you should use the title on search results page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article! I tried a few queries, and the results are no where near the quality of google or yahoo. I think they want to run before they can walk.</p>
<p>Agree with your comments about manipulating titles for click through. </p>
<p>@Sebastien : I think you missed the point. Google and yahoo do not always use meta tags and titles on search results. This is not the point of this article and nothing in it implies that you should use the title on search results page.</p>
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		<title>By: Blackpool Attractions</title>
		<link>http://www.searchenginejournal.com/microsofts-bing-falsifies-site-data-to-increase-click-through-rates/10798/comment-page-2/#comment-1102018</link>
		<dc:creator>Blackpool Attractions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My blog didnt appear in bing either, how and if will it appear?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My blog didnt appear in bing either, how and if will it appear?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Lee Clark</title>
		<link>http://www.searchenginejournal.com/microsofts-bing-falsifies-site-data-to-increase-click-through-rates/10798/comment-page-2/#comment-1102017</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Lee Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Joe Hall - No explanation needed on defending your character as I would do the same. Its just unfortunate the convo far too often turns toward that track.  Regardless I&#039;ll digress and move onto the point. Check out this tool that compares G,Y and B without branding. I typed in my own name &quot;Jon Lee Clark&quot; and found two of the 3 engines were &#039;optimizing&#039; my Title tags to fit the query:  http://blindsearch.fejus.com/?q=jon+lee+clark

Looks like you better expand your rant to include the big G! Its weird though, I ran the above mentioned queries through the tool and all come back normal. Someone must&#039;ve taken notice of your post!:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Joe Hall &#8211; No explanation needed on defending your character as I would do the same. Its just unfortunate the convo far too often turns toward that track.  Regardless I&#8217;ll digress and move onto the point. Check out this tool that compares G,Y and B without branding. I typed in my own name &#8220;Jon Lee Clark&#8221; and found two of the 3 engines were &#8216;optimizing&#8217; my Title tags to fit the query:  <a href="http://blindsearch.fejus.com/?q=jon+lee+clark" rel="nofollow">http://blindsearch.fejus.com/?q=jon+lee+clark</a></p>
<p>Looks like you better expand your rant to include the big G! Its weird though, I ran the above mentioned queries through the tool and all come back normal. Someone must&#8217;ve taken notice of your post!:)</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Hall</title>
		<link>http://www.searchenginejournal.com/microsofts-bing-falsifies-site-data-to-increase-click-through-rates/10798/comment-page-2/#comment-1101959</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 14:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Alan Bleiweiss -- I completely agree with you! *Passes you a free beer*

@Jon Lee Clark -- I am sorry you didn&#039;t enjoy the last several comments. I don&#039;t respond well to baseless attacks on my integrity. As for further clarifying my point, i am going to re-paste a comment that I posted above that you obviously missed

&quot;If someone runs the query, “Joe Hall” and jozsoft.com comes up with the term “Joe Hall” as the title, that is an extremely pointless result. Because there is absolutely nothing about me on that site. Yes, it is my company, but there is nothing about me as an individual. That&#039;s what my personal blog is for and is why I titled that blog “Joe Hall”.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alan Bleiweiss &#8212; I completely agree with you! *Passes you a free beer*</p>
<p>@Jon Lee Clark &#8212; I am sorry you didn&#8217;t enjoy the last several comments. I don&#8217;t respond well to baseless attacks on my integrity. As for further clarifying my point, i am going to re-paste a comment that I posted above that you obviously missed</p>
<p>&#8220;If someone runs the query, “Joe Hall” and jozsoft.com comes up with the term “Joe Hall” as the title, that is an extremely pointless result. Because there is absolutely nothing about me on that site. Yes, it is my company, but there is nothing about me as an individual. That&#8217;s what my personal blog is for and is why I titled that blog “Joe Hall”.&#8221;</p>
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