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	<title>Comments on: Microsoft Bing Yahoo Partnership Supported by Search Engine&#160;Industry</title>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.searchenginejournal.com/microsoft-bing-yahoo-search-industry/12112/comment-page-1/#comment-1148440</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was reported a little early. I am looking at Jan 2010 for the switchover to take place. Yahoo has canceled their search submit program effectice Dec 31st 2009. Bodes well for the switchover in early 2010.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was reported a little early. I am looking at Jan 2010 for the switchover to take place. Yahoo has canceled their search submit program effectice Dec 31st 2009. Bodes well for the switchover in early 2010.</p>
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		<title>By: unlimited</title>
		<link>http://www.searchenginejournal.com/microsoft-bing-yahoo-search-industry/12112/comment-page-1/#comment-1109337</link>
		<dc:creator>unlimited</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 01:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We like adcenter for the great conversion rates of Bing’s traffic.. With Yahoo though we are forced to buy clicks from junk partners that send nothing but fake clicks.. It’s a daily job to monitor all the new bad-domains to block.. And you have to PAY for all that.. :P 

With the current merge of Yahoo and Bing let’s hope the new “team” will do it RIGHT by giving the advertisers the choice to pay only for real yahoo/bing searches.. just like Adwords and adcenter allow (for now?).

Just my 2 cents

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We like adcenter for the great conversion rates of Bing’s traffic.. With Yahoo though we are forced to buy clicks from junk partners that send nothing but fake clicks.. It’s a daily job to monitor all the new bad-domains to block.. And you have to PAY for all that.. :P </p>
<p>With the current merge of Yahoo and Bing let’s hope the new “team” will do it RIGHT by giving the advertisers the choice to pay only for real yahoo/bing searches.. just like Adwords and adcenter allow (for now?).</p>
<p>Just my 2 cents</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Angela</title>
		<link>http://www.searchenginejournal.com/microsoft-bing-yahoo-search-industry/12112/comment-page-1/#comment-1106995</link>
		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 09:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.avantbrowser.com   is pretty good, small, fast, lots good reviews...search engine powered by Yahoo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.avantbrowser.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.avantbrowser.com</a>   is pretty good, small, fast, lots good reviews&#8230;search engine powered by Yahoo</p>
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		<title>By: steveballmer</title>
		<link>http://www.searchenginejournal.com/microsoft-bing-yahoo-search-industry/12112/comment-page-1/#comment-1106740</link>
		<dc:creator>steveballmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 01:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love it when an intricate, fiendish plan comes together!
Here is the She-CEO of Yahoo (Carol Bats) and myself signing the final agreement to give Microsoft control over the entire backend for Yahoo’s entire search! Yahoo will handle ads, marketing, hosting and all that kinda&#039; crap, but we will be the ones in charge of the main product, SEARCH! I was so happy as I was signing this that I almost ... well, I was happy!
The She-CEO tried to put a good spin on Yahoo&#039;s surrender, she said,
&quot;We never really liked search anyways! We are letting these people handle that stuff while we pursue the cool stuff ya&#039;know!&quot;
Miss Bats, have you ever heard of a Puppet master?
Oh well, it has been a VERY good week here at Microsoft! Very good indeed!
(In the meanwhile, the man who opposed me at Yahoo (The Vagrant Yang) continues to marinate in his own feecees on the streets of Redmond! 
www.flickr.com/photos/ballmerrockz/3741197526/
Let him be a lesson to all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love it when an intricate, fiendish plan comes together!<br />
Here is the She-CEO of Yahoo (Carol Bats) and myself signing the final agreement to give Microsoft control over the entire backend for Yahoo’s entire search! Yahoo will handle ads, marketing, hosting and all that kinda&#8217; crap, but we will be the ones in charge of the main product, SEARCH! I was so happy as I was signing this that I almost &#8230; well, I was happy!<br />
The She-CEO tried to put a good spin on Yahoo&#8217;s surrender, she said,<br />
&#8220;We never really liked search anyways! We are letting these people handle that stuff while we pursue the cool stuff ya&#8217;know!&#8221;<br />
Miss Bats, have you ever heard of a Puppet master?<br />
Oh well, it has been a VERY good week here at Microsoft! Very good indeed!<br />
(In the meanwhile, the man who opposed me at Yahoo (The Vagrant Yang) continues to marinate in his own feecees on the streets of Redmond!<br />
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ballmerrockz/3741197526/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ballmerrockz/3741197526/</a><br />
Let him be a lesson to all!</p>
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		<title>By: 13 Guys Named Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>13 Guys Named Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Unbearable Likeness of Bing: I&#039;m not sure how Bing can expect to catch up to Google, even with the boost from Yahoo! when they don&#039;t offer anything different or beyond what Google already does... *minus* such things as AdSense or Gmail.

It is going to be a LONG uphill climb if Microsoft intends to put the fear into Google.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Unbearable Likeness of Bing: I&#8217;m not sure how Bing can expect to catch up to Google, even with the boost from Yahoo! when they don&#8217;t offer anything different or beyond what Google already does&#8230; *minus* such things as AdSense or Gmail.</p>
<p>It is going to be a LONG uphill climb if Microsoft intends to put the fear into Google.</p>
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		<title>By: Stroseo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stroseo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@michael

&quot;Obsolete metrics. Not relevant to what is actually happening in search today.&quot;

Again, if these are obsolete, how would you measure market share?

&quot;And that sampling of data is supposed to convince people that comScore got it right, even though there is no correlation between referrals and pageviews.&quot;

I think you misunderstood, you said

&quot;Google’s real search market share appears to be about 1/3. Bing and Yahoo! combined seem to have about as much market share.&quot;  

I was saying that based on real data i.e. referrals to my clients websites, Comscore and Hitwise tend to inflate market share of Yahoo and Bing, and under report on the true market share of Google which is about 80%. 

Do you really believe that Google only has 1/3 of the market share? That&#039;s ridiculous.
.-= Stroseo´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://stroseo.com/canonicalization/canonical-tag-example/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Canonical Tag Example&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@michael</p>
<p>&#8220;Obsolete metrics. Not relevant to what is actually happening in search today.&#8221;</p>
<p>Again, if these are obsolete, how would you measure market share?</p>
<p>&#8220;And that sampling of data is supposed to convince people that comScore got it right, even though there is no correlation between referrals and pageviews.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you misunderstood, you said</p>
<p>&#8220;Google’s real search market share appears to be about 1/3. Bing and Yahoo! combined seem to have about as much market share.&#8221;  </p>
<p>I was saying that based on real data i.e. referrals to my clients websites, Comscore and Hitwise tend to inflate market share of Yahoo and Bing, and under report on the true market share of Google which is about 80%. </p>
<p>Do you really believe that Google only has 1/3 of the market share? That&#8217;s ridiculous.<br />
.-= Stroseo´s last blog ..<a href="http://stroseo.com/canonicalization/canonical-tag-example/" rel="nofollow">Canonical Tag Example</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Martinez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Martinez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stroseo: &quot;The two most important metrics for search engine market share are pageviews and number of queries performed.&quot;

Riight.  Obsolete metrics.  Not relevant to what is actually happening in search today.

Stroseo: &quot;For the companies that I have worked for, large, small, new and old, Google has always provided about 80% of search engine traffic, Yahoo about 10-15% and Live/MSN (now Bing) about 5-10%.&quot;

And that sampling of data is supposed to convince people that comScore got it right, even though there is no correlation between referrals and pageviews.

Riight.

Loren -- &quot;Exciting&quot; is one way to describe it.

Frankly, I&#039;m not looking forward to the death of the Yahoo! brand.  I remember what happened to search when Yahoo! killed off the brands it bought.

It&#039;s more likely that things are about to become ugly again than that happy days are here at last.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stroseo: &#8220;The two most important metrics for search engine market share are pageviews and number of queries performed.&#8221;</p>
<p>Riight.  Obsolete metrics.  Not relevant to what is actually happening in search today.</p>
<p>Stroseo: &#8220;For the companies that I have worked for, large, small, new and old, Google has always provided about 80% of search engine traffic, Yahoo about 10-15% and Live/MSN (now Bing) about 5-10%.&#8221;</p>
<p>And that sampling of data is supposed to convince people that comScore got it right, even though there is no correlation between referrals and pageviews.</p>
<p>Riight.</p>
<p>Loren &#8212; &#8220;Exciting&#8221; is one way to describe it.</p>
<p>Frankly, I&#8217;m not looking forward to the death of the Yahoo! brand.  I remember what happened to search when Yahoo! killed off the brands it bought.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s more likely that things are about to become ugly again than that happy days are here at last.</p>
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		<title>By: Loren Baker, Editor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loren Baker, Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Loren Baker, Editor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loren Baker, Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 03:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Loren Baker, Editor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loren Baker, Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Michael

The deal which is expected to be announced any minute now, is about Search AND Advertising ... pretty exciting huh?</description>
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<p>The deal which is expected to be announced any minute now, is about Search AND Advertising &#8230; pretty exciting huh?</p>
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