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		<title>By: Los Angeles seo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Los Angeles seo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a fantastic post! An absolute eye-opener. I never noticed that such use of meta description is also done. Everybody&#039;s feedback is also worth reading. This is something one should divert their attention too and take into notice. And I too think that using such meta description will not help such sites to grow their business opportunities. A must read post by Matt Leonard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a fantastic post! An absolute eye-opener. I never noticed that such use of meta description is also done. Everybody&#8217;s feedback is also worth reading. This is something one should divert their attention too and take into notice. And I too think that using such meta description will not help such sites to grow their business opportunities. A must read post by Matt Leonard.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George Jessup was on duty, driving his plumbing company’s truck. But when he saw a duck sitting on a storm drain on a busy road in Shaler, he didn’t think twice about stopping.

“The duck wouldn’t move, and it was in a dangerous position on Anderson Road. It piqued my curiosity,” Mr. Jessup said.

When he approached the duck he heard “peep peep peeping” and realized there were ducklings in the storm drain. He just had to help.

Mr. Jessup, 49, of Millvale, got busy on his cell phone. His first call was to his boss, Bob Beall, franchise owner of Mr. Rooter Plumbing of Pittsburgh. He told him to go ahead and help the ducklings, “and he said he’d cover me” if customers called with plumbing emergencies, Mr. Jessup said.

When he couldn’t budge the heavy grate, he called Shaler police and volunteer firefighters. The ducklings “were flipping out,” he said, and the mother duck, a mallard, was agitated.

“The firemen took the grate off. It must have weighed 300 pounds,” Mr. Jessup said. “Then a police officer reached in and picked up the ducklings. There were six or seven. They were the cutest things you ever saw — brownish with some white and yellow.

To make sure they got every duckling, Mr. Jessup sent Mr. Rooter’s video inspection camera down the pipe. There were no more.

“It was just inspiring how everyone pitched in,” he said.

After their three-hour ordeal, mamma and her ducklings “just waddled off,” he said.

Mr. Beall got one emergency call while Mr. Jessup was rescuing ducklings; he called another plumber in on his day off.

“Mr. Rooter practices courtesy as a normal part of doing business,” he deadpanned.

Call (724) 716-4099 for the best plumber in Pittsburgh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George Jessup was on duty, driving his plumbing company’s truck. But when he saw a duck sitting on a storm drain on a busy road in Shaler, he didn’t think twice about stopping.</p>
<p>“The duck wouldn’t move, and it was in a dangerous position on Anderson Road. It piqued my curiosity,” Mr. Jessup said.</p>
<p>When he approached the duck he heard “peep peep peeping” and realized there were ducklings in the storm drain. He just had to help.</p>
<p>Mr. Jessup, 49, of Millvale, got busy on his cell phone. His first call was to his boss, Bob Beall, franchise owner of Mr. Rooter Plumbing of Pittsburgh. He told him to go ahead and help the ducklings, “and he said he’d cover me” if customers called with plumbing emergencies, Mr. Jessup said.</p>
<p>When he couldn’t budge the heavy grate, he called Shaler police and volunteer firefighters. The ducklings “were flipping out,” he said, and the mother duck, a mallard, was agitated.</p>
<p>“The firemen took the grate off. It must have weighed 300 pounds,” Mr. Jessup said. “Then a police officer reached in and picked up the ducklings. There were six or seven. They were the cutest things you ever saw — brownish with some white and yellow.</p>
<p>To make sure they got every duckling, Mr. Jessup sent Mr. Rooter’s video inspection camera down the pipe. There were no more.</p>
<p>“It was just inspiring how everyone pitched in,” he said.</p>
<p>After their three-hour ordeal, mamma and her ducklings “just waddled off,” he said.</p>
<p>Mr. Beall got one emergency call while Mr. Jessup was rescuing ducklings; he called another plumber in on his day off.</p>
<p>“Mr. Rooter practices courtesy as a normal part of doing business,” he deadpanned.</p>
<p>Call (724) 716-4099 for the best plumber in Pittsburgh!</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear i see your sites and i like your sites very much but i request that share more knowledge about SEO, SMO, and on page and off page also. Hey guys my company websites information is here which i want to share with you and also need response from you that what about my sites. My sites information is here:-&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.alkemi.com.au/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SEO&lt;/a&gt; :Learn how search engine marketing, PPC management, conversion enhancement and web analytics tracking can boost your online profitability. Visit Alkemi&#039;s website for more details about Internet Marketing Services.

Thanks and Best Regards
Sam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear i see your sites and i like your sites very much but i request that share more knowledge about SEO, SMO, and on page and off page also. Hey guys my company websites information is here which i want to share with you and also need response from you that what about my sites. My sites information is here:-<a href="http://www.alkemi.com.au/" rel="nofollow">SEO</a> :Learn how search engine marketing, PPC management, conversion enhancement and web analytics tracking can boost your online profitability. Visit Alkemi&#8217;s website for more details about Internet Marketing Services.</p>
<p>Thanks and Best Regards<br />
Sam</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear i see your sites and i like your sites very much but i request that share more knowledge about SEO, SMO, and on page and off page also. Hey guys my company websites information is here which i want to share with you and also need response from you that what about my sites. My sites information is here:-&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.profitbysearch.nl/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SEO Bedrijf&lt;/a&gt; :For SEO Services India visit Profit By Search A SEO Company in India offering SEO Services, SEO Consultancy Services to Companies in North America &amp; Europe.

Thanks and Best Regards
Tauqeer Aziz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear i see your sites and i like your sites very much but i request that share more knowledge about SEO, SMO, and on page and off page also. Hey guys my company websites information is here which i want to share with you and also need response from you that what about my sites. My sites information is here:-<a href="http://www.profitbysearch.nl/" rel="nofollow">SEO Bedrijf</a> :For SEO Services India visit Profit By Search A SEO Company in India offering SEO Services, SEO Consultancy Services to Companies in North America &amp; Europe.</p>
<p>Thanks and Best Regards<br />
Tauqeer Aziz</p>
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		<title>By: Sahus Pilwal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sahus Pilwal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 23:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SEOMOZ.org discuss GEO search with regards to consistant address details across the web with map details and placing that information on informative sites relevant to that location. i.e. listing your site with the local council website or chamber of commerce site. Search Engines will dictate relevance based on how consistant your addressing is across the web. These formulas could become handy in other forms not just for meta tag descriptions etc!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SEOMOZ.org discuss GEO search with regards to consistant address details across the web with map details and placing that information on informative sites relevant to that location. i.e. listing your site with the local council website or chamber of commerce site. Search Engines will dictate relevance based on how consistant your addressing is across the web. These formulas could become handy in other forms not just for meta tag descriptions etc!</p>
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		<title>By: Afzal Khan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Afzal Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction...I missed adding State Abbv in Title

Title:
City Category &#124; Category City, State Abbv - Domain Name</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction&#8230;I missed adding State Abbv in Title</p>
<p>Title:<br />
City Category | Category City, State Abbv &#8211; Domain Name</p>
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		<title>By: Afzal Khan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Afzal Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well  in addition to conversion, I feel Title is the most important &amp; first aspect which grabs user attention and lead to more click through organically.  Search Engine&#039;s too pick the  to display in SERP&#039;s as it is as given on site.

While with  many time&#039;s I experienced Search Engine&#039;s do not display the exact description what we provide over site at SERP&#039;s. They sometimes pick snippet text from Dmoz description or somewhere within from the page content.  More weightage has to be given on formulating title.

I feel the description Formula used here is perfect and having City &amp; Category bold in description will help both way Organic Rankings &amp; Clicks.

I am doing SEO for a very huge site where we are targeting almost every city of US for our products and services. It was tough for us to write meta&#039;s for each and every webpage unique, so we also created the Formula to be used with CMS as below:-

Title: 
City Category &#124; Category City,  - Domain Name

Description:
City Category - XYZ provides  Category (Product &amp; Services) in...text to complete meaningful sentence.... City (Abbv). 

It has worked great for us, we are almost on Google 1st Page for most of our targeted terms (many other Onpage &amp; Offpage SEO factors do count), even Clicks are aussum for some of our listings at 7th &amp; 8th position.

However I am looking forward to learn a lot from this discussion, waiting to see what all are will the outcome&#039;s of this discussion.

Cheer&#039;s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well  in addition to conversion, I feel Title is the most important &amp; first aspect which grabs user attention and lead to more click through organically.  Search Engine&#8217;s too pick the  to display in SERP&#8217;s as it is as given on site.</p>
<p>While with  many time&#8217;s I experienced Search Engine&#8217;s do not display the exact description what we provide over site at SERP&#8217;s. They sometimes pick snippet text from Dmoz description or somewhere within from the page content.  More weightage has to be given on formulating title.</p>
<p>I feel the description Formula used here is perfect and having City &amp; Category bold in description will help both way Organic Rankings &amp; Clicks.</p>
<p>I am doing SEO for a very huge site where we are targeting almost every city of US for our products and services. It was tough for us to write meta&#8217;s for each and every webpage unique, so we also created the Formula to be used with CMS as below:-</p>
<p>Title:<br />
City Category | Category City,  &#8211; Domain Name</p>
<p>Description:<br />
City Category &#8211; XYZ provides  Category (Product &amp; Services) in&#8230;text to complete meaningful sentence&#8230;. City (Abbv). </p>
<p>It has worked great for us, we are almost on Google 1st Page for most of our targeted terms (many other Onpage &amp; Offpage SEO factors do count), even Clicks are aussum for some of our listings at 7th &amp; 8th position.</p>
<p>However I am looking forward to learn a lot from this discussion, waiting to see what all are will the outcome&#8217;s of this discussion.</p>
<p>Cheer&#8217;s</p>
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		<title>By: CAP Digisoft Solutions Inc.</title>
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		<dc:creator>CAP Digisoft Solutions Inc.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that we can go with this kind of tactics if we target only for local audience but think of large audience (world wide). In this case will this be successful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that we can go with this kind of tactics if we target only for local audience but think of large audience (world wide). In this case will this be successful.</p>
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		<title>By: Social Maximizer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Social Maximizer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I once had a website back in 2005 where I had 64,000 pages, each representing a particular city in the United States. I employed similar tactics of dynamically changing the meta tags and content for each page and that worked great for a while especially with Yahoo sending tons of traffic my way. But it barely lasted 6 months before the traffic stopped, guess the search engines recognised there wasn&#039;t too much unique content on offer (used customised rss feeds and basic database info on each city). If the content offered on each page is substantially unique and informative, I think it should work well - personally, don&#039;t think meta tags will hold that much weight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I once had a website back in 2005 where I had 64,000 pages, each representing a particular city in the United States. I employed similar tactics of dynamically changing the meta tags and content for each page and that worked great for a while especially with Yahoo sending tons of traffic my way. But it barely lasted 6 months before the traffic stopped, guess the search engines recognised there wasn&#8217;t too much unique content on offer (used customised rss feeds and basic database info on each city). If the content offered on each page is substantially unique and informative, I think it should work well &#8211; personally, don&#8217;t think meta tags will hold that much weight.</p>
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		<title>By: Remi Turcotte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Remi Turcotte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Either you : 
- create theme-specific meta title and description = $
- leave it as it is ! =0$</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Either you :<br />
- create theme-specific meta title and description = $<br />
- leave it as it is ! =0$</p>
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