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	<title>Comments on: How to Get Rid of Multiple Subpages &amp; Not Get&#160;Penalized</title>
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		<title>By: SEO Canada</title>
		<link>http://www.searchenginejournal.com/how-to-get-rid-of-multiple-subpages-not-get-penalized/7468/comment-page-1/#comment-1084095</link>
		<dc:creator>SEO Canada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  I personally go for a mixture of 301s and 404s like you suggested.  At SMX someone said just to 301 every single 404 directly to the homepage, and I thought this was a terrible tactic (Which Matt Cutts fully agreed with me via email on), I&#039;m so waiting for where Matt would like to take the webmaster tools (not to drop any hints, but some of it directly could relate to this very topic).  Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  I personally go for a mixture of 301s and 404s like you suggested.  At SMX someone said just to 301 every single 404 directly to the homepage, and I thought this was a terrible tactic (Which Matt Cutts fully agreed with me via email on), I&#8217;m so waiting for where Matt would like to take the webmaster tools (not to drop any hints, but some of it directly could relate to this very topic).  Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Smarty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann Smarty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Commenting at Sphinn discussion and also adding these points here:
(btw, you should visit brilliant Sphinn discussion concerning this post):

&quot;I never saw any penalties either from using 404 or 301 - tried both in various cases. I&#039;ve had cases when plenty of 404 popped up in a day and no ranking (or other) change followed. So, no, I don&#039;t believe that 404 can be harmful or that it is not user or bot friendly (I mean proper 404).

So yes, I was citing other people&#039;s experience (just because I agree that they might have seen something I failed to see) - and I gave the link to the related discussion and emphasized that 301-penalties are just rumors (&quot;might cause penalties&quot;).

The solution I offered for the discussed case still seems most reasonable as there should be a good reason behind using 301 (related pages, pages created as substitute, etc).&quot;

And here is the &lt;a href=&quot;http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2008/08/farewell-to-soft-404s.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt; to the recent GoogleWebmasterCentral post concerning 404.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Commenting at Sphinn discussion and also adding these points here:<br />
(btw, you should visit brilliant Sphinn discussion concerning this post):</p>
<p>&#8220;I never saw any penalties either from using 404 or 301 &#8211; tried both in various cases. I&#8217;ve had cases when plenty of 404 popped up in a day and no ranking (or other) change followed. So, no, I don&#8217;t believe that 404 can be harmful or that it is not user or bot friendly (I mean proper 404).</p>
<p>So yes, I was citing other people&#8217;s experience (just because I agree that they might have seen something I failed to see) &#8211; and I gave the link to the related discussion and emphasized that 301-penalties are just rumors (&#8220;might cause penalties&#8221;).</p>
<p>The solution I offered for the discussed case still seems most reasonable as there should be a good reason behind using 301 (related pages, pages created as substitute, etc).&#8221;</p>
<p>And here is the <a href="http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2008/08/farewell-to-soft-404s.html" rel="nofollow">link</a> to the recent GoogleWebmasterCentral post concerning 404.</p>
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		<title>By: Babu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Babu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello all Wish you a Very Nice time going on . I am here to request you for something . I had created a new Blog . Which is not so congested so you can reach soon . I request all of you to visit and Review this new Blog . Here you can get lots of FREE stuffs and Free Information too . So act soon .</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Edmond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek Edmond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve 301 redirected at least 100 (never 1,000&#039;s) pages of a website to a sitemap page and.or relevant landing pages and not seen an issue with organic search engine traffic in at least 2 recent instances.

That was for a static website but I have seen redirected blog posts impact organic search engine traffic (pruning out old or outdated blog posts).  I&#039;ve never been too interested in the search traffic of the specific blogs impacted to really delve into this deeper though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve 301 redirected at least 100 (never 1,000&#8242;s) pages of a website to a sitemap page and.or relevant landing pages and not seen an issue with organic search engine traffic in at least 2 recent instances.</p>
<p>That was for a static website but I have seen redirected blog posts impact organic search engine traffic (pruning out old or outdated blog posts).  I&#8217;ve never been too interested in the search traffic of the specific blogs impacted to really delve into this deeper though.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaan Kanellis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaan Kanellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ann if the post is just about deleting pages off your website then say so, but the fact is if you had a 1000 pages on your website and they were getting some clicks/traffic/or had some juice you should be redirecting them.  The number of redirects shouldnt even be an issue here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann if the post is just about deleting pages off your website then say so, but the fact is if you had a 1000 pages on your website and they were getting some clicks/traffic/or had some juice you should be redirecting them.  The number of redirects shouldnt even be an issue here.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Gianoglio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Gianoglio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was under the impression that having a lot of pages that return a 404 can negatively impact your rankings. If I were Google, and I was trying to crawl a site that kept returning &quot;Page Not Found&quot; it wouldn&#039;t make me want to rank it higher - even for pages that do have content.
Can you clarify this Ann?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was under the impression that having a lot of pages that return a 404 can negatively impact your rankings. If I were Google, and I was trying to crawl a site that kept returning &#8220;Page Not Found&#8221; it wouldn&#8217;t make me want to rank it higher &#8211; even for pages that do have content.<br />
Can you clarify this Ann?</p>
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		<title>By: sam lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great tips thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great tips thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Smarty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann Smarty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jaan, no harm doesn&#039;t mean it should be done. If we talk about low-quality (extra) pages (otherwise, why would we want to get rid of them?), what&#039;s the point in redirecting them? Wouldn&#039;t it be more natural to just delete them and clean up the site and that&#039;s it? I insist that every method should be based on common sense: if we have the reason to redirect (links, traffic, etc), then do it, if not, then why would you do that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jaan, no harm doesn&#8217;t mean it should be done. If we talk about low-quality (extra) pages (otherwise, why would we want to get rid of them?), what&#8217;s the point in redirecting them? Wouldn&#8217;t it be more natural to just delete them and clean up the site and that&#8217;s it? I insist that every method should be based on common sense: if we have the reason to redirect (links, traffic, etc), then do it, if not, then why would you do that?</p>
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		<title>By: Software Testing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Software Testing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 06:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Loren, I am not against you and Ann&#039;s statement, my doubt is if we are adding 301 from few powerful pages to a new page, will that be considered as spam, with respect to G? Its like adding few high pr links to a new page!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Loren, I am not against you and Ann&#8217;s statement, my doubt is if we are adding 301 from few powerful pages to a new page, will that be considered as spam, with respect to G? Its like adding few high pr links to a new page!</p>
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		<title>By: Jaan Kanellis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaan Kanellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 01:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really dont see any harm in using 301 redirects for 100s or 1000s of pages at all.

I have done with positive results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really dont see any harm in using 301 redirects for 100s or 1000s of pages at all.</p>
<p>I have done with positive results.</p>
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