Comments on: Google : Germany’s Largest Online Pornographer? http://www.searchenginejournal.com/google-germanys-largest-online-pornographer/6062/ Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:43:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Thogek http://www.searchenginejournal.com/google-germanys-largest-online-pornographer/6062/comment-page-1/#comment-772569 Thogek Sat, 08 Dec 2007 01:31:39 +0000 http://www.searchenginejournal.com/google-germanys-largest-online-pornographer/6062/#comment-772569 IAC, I wonder if the recent Google blog post at http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2007/12/googles-and-parents-role-in-keeping.html is at all related to what's going on in Germany... IAC, I wonder if the recent Google blog post at http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2007/12/googles-and-parents-role-in-keeping.html is at all related to what’s going on in Germany…

]]> By: Thomas http://www.searchenginejournal.com/google-germanys-largest-online-pornographer/6062/comment-page-1/#comment-765870 Thomas Thu, 06 Dec 2007 11:26:11 +0000 http://www.searchenginejournal.com/google-germanys-largest-online-pornographer/6062/#comment-765870 You have to keep in mind that there are very strict age verification regulations for the display of pornographic material in Germany. What is allowed on most US-based sites is strictly forbidden to German sites under German law - sample video clips of sexual intercourse or bestiality without any genuine age verification. So they as a home player actually have a disadvantage to web sites outside Germany which don't have to comply with these regulations. In the USA minors may watch these clips without problems. The same goes to sample pictures. And exactly these may be found via Google. Of course, in the end this is just all about money. They don't actually want to block Google or think they can achieve that. They just want to make a case that German pornographic sites are in fact discriminated in terms of a free market in Germany to foreign sites. Some German sites alreday reacted and switched their base to the neighbouring Netherlands due to their rather easy-going attitude towards pornography. You have to keep in mind that there are very strict age verification regulations for the display of pornographic material in Germany. What is allowed on most US-based sites is strictly forbidden to German sites under German law – sample video clips of sexual intercourse or bestiality without any genuine age verification.
So they as a home player actually have a disadvantage to web sites outside Germany which don’t have to comply with these regulations. In the USA minors may watch these clips without problems. The same goes to sample pictures. And exactly these may be found via Google.
Of course, in the end this is just all about money. They don’t actually want to block Google or think they can achieve that. They just want to make a case that German pornographic sites are in fact discriminated in terms of a free market in Germany to foreign sites.
Some German sites alreday reacted and switched their base to the neighbouring Netherlands due to their rather easy-going attitude towards pornography.

]]> By: Thogek http://www.searchenginejournal.com/google-germanys-largest-online-pornographer/6062/comment-page-1/#comment-765220 Thogek Thu, 06 Dec 2007 05:50:31 +0000 http://www.searchenginejournal.com/google-germanys-largest-online-pornographer/6062/#comment-765220 Google may well be the largest purveyor of content (of all sorts) on the Web. But don't forget the Web hosts that housed that content on the Web in the first place, and your ISP as it downloads copies of content to your computer. They *all* facilitated the delivery of that pornographic material to the screen in front of your kids' eyes. Shall we ban them all? In fact, next time you get an adult-oriented ad in the U.S. Mail, be sure to file immediate charges against the U.S. Postal Service for having violated federal law and delivered such content into easy reach of your kids. Again, Google (as well as most other search engines) publishes a very simple way in which any Web site can indicate to Google's index to exclude all or any part of its content. This method can very easily be used by any halfway-responsible publisher of kid-objectionable material. Go after the ones who put that material, without the most basic and responsible attempts to mark and protect it from such exposure, on the open kid-accessible Internet in the first place. Or, just nail Google. But make sure to apply your line of reasoning fairly, which means also including every hand through which the pornography so easily passed on its way to your kids' computers. Of course, that pretty much cuts off your ability to connect to the Internet... Google may well be the largest purveyor of content (of all sorts) on the Web. But don’t forget the Web hosts that housed that content on the Web in the first place, and your ISP as it downloads copies of content to your computer. They *all* facilitated the delivery of that pornographic material to the screen in front of your kids’ eyes. Shall we ban them all?

In fact, next time you get an adult-oriented ad in the U.S. Mail, be sure to file immediate charges against the U.S. Postal Service for having violated federal law and delivered such content into easy reach of your kids.

Again, Google (as well as most other search engines) publishes a very simple way in which any Web site can indicate to Google’s index to exclude all or any part of its content. This method can very easily be used by any halfway-responsible publisher of kid-objectionable material.

Go after the ones who put that material, without the most basic and responsible attempts to mark and protect it from such exposure, on the open kid-accessible Internet in the first place.

Or, just nail Google. But make sure to apply your line of reasoning fairly, which means also including every hand through which the pornography so easily passed on its way to your kids’ computers. Of course, that pretty much cuts off your ability to connect to the Internet…

]]> By: Michael Martinez http://www.searchenginejournal.com/google-germanys-largest-online-pornographer/6062/comment-page-1/#comment-763915 Michael Martinez Wed, 05 Dec 2007 23:02:32 +0000 http://www.searchenginejournal.com/google-germanys-largest-online-pornographer/6062/#comment-763915 Actually, it does make sense. Google IS the largest purveyor of pornography on the Web and they provide it pretty much for free. It's almost impossible to do an image search outside of SAFE mode where you can be reasonably sure you won't find pornography. But porn still shows up on occasion even in SAFE mode. Without an age verification test, Google makes it quite possible for children to view pornographic content -- which, as far as I am aware -- is a violation of Federal law here in the United States (I don't recall any specific exclusions for search engines). Actually, it does make sense. Google IS the largest purveyor of pornography on the Web and they provide it pretty much for free.

It’s almost impossible to do an image search outside of SAFE mode where you can be reasonably sure you won’t find pornography. But porn still shows up on occasion even in SAFE mode.

Without an age verification test, Google makes it quite possible for children to view pornographic content — which, as far as I am aware — is a violation of Federal law here in the United States (I don’t recall any specific exclusions for search engines).

]]> By: Thogek http://www.searchenginejournal.com/google-germanys-largest-online-pornographer/6062/comment-page-1/#comment-763575 Thogek Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:43:25 +0000 http://www.searchenginejournal.com/google-germanys-largest-online-pornographer/6062/#comment-763575 Oh, that makes sense. Block Google for doing what it does. Are they going to act to block every Internet search engine out there? the German public'll love that. How about going after the sites posting/hosting objectionable images for placing their images out in the unsecured open where Google's crawlers (or anyone else out there) could pick them up. There are ways to make your Web images difficult or impossible to crawl. Google also publishes well-known public interfaces for excluding content from Google's index. http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35308 http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35301&topic=8459 Oh, that makes sense. Block Google for doing what it does. Are they going to act to block every Internet search engine out there? the German public’ll love that.

How about going after the sites posting/hosting objectionable images for placing their images out in the unsecured open where Google’s crawlers (or anyone else out there) could pick them up. There are ways to make your Web images difficult or impossible to crawl. Google also publishes well-known public interfaces for excluding content from Google’s index.

http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35308
http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35301&topic=8459

]]> By: Barry Schwartz http://www.searchenginejournal.com/google-germanys-largest-online-pornographer/6062/comment-page-1/#comment-763452 Barry Schwartz Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:47:45 +0000 http://www.searchenginejournal.com/google-germanys-largest-online-pornographer/6062/#comment-763452 Nice find. Nice find.

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